Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency

During opening remarks, the subcommittee chair cited an official count of 171 uncharacterized UAP reports described as having unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities.

In its initial analysis there are 171 uncharacterized UAP reports—and this is the words from the report—that appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities.

Graves testified that a UAP described as a dark cube inside a clear sphere passed within 50 feet of an F/A-18 during a training mission near Virginia Beach, prompting termination of the flight.

The object, described as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere, came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft and was estimated to be five to 15 feet in diameter.

Grusch testified that he made a PPD-19 urgent-concern filing with the Intelligence Community Inspector General in May 2022 after receiving reports of UAP-related secrecy above congressional oversight.

I became a whistleblower through a PPD–19 urgent concern filing in May 2022 with the intelligence community inspector general following concerning reports from multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former military and intelligence community individuals

Grusch alleged that, during his official duties, he was told of a decades-long UAP crash-retrieval and reverse-engineering program but was denied the additional access he requested.

I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it.

Fravor testified that controllers said the objects involved in the 2004 incident had descended rapidly from above 80,000 feet to 20,000 feet, remained for hours, and then ascended again.

these objects had been observed for over 2 weeks coming down from over 80,000 feet, rapidly descending to 20,000 feet, hanging out for hours and then going straight back up.

Graves testified that pilots with upgraded radar systems along the Eastern Seaboard in 2014 and 2015 detected the objects and correlated tracks with other onboard sensors and some visual sightings.

anyone that had upgraded their radar systems were seeing these objects. So, there was a large number of my colleagues that were detecting these objects off the Eastern Seaboard.

Grusch answered yes when asked whether he had personally experienced efforts to conceal alleged extraterrestrial technology and said he referred possible murder information to appropriate authorities.

Have you personally witnessed anyone? Mr. GRUSCH. Yes, personally. Mr. BURCHETT. Have you heard—have anyone been murdered that you would—that you know of or have heard of, I guess? Mr. GRUSCH. I have to be careful asking that question.

Graves said visual reports of dark cubes inside clear spheres extended over nearly eight years and were, to his knowledge, still occurring at the time of the hearing.

that was primarily what was being reported when we were able to gain a visual tally of these objects. That occurred over almost 8 years and as far as I know is still occurring.

Grusch alleged that hidden activity could be funded through misappropriation and said he had specific knowledge of budgeted money being diverted to another purpose.

misappropriation of funds and self-fund. Mr. MOSKOWITZ. Does that mean that there is money in the budget that is set to go to a program, but it does not, and it goes to something else? Mr. GRUSCH. Yes.

Grusch said reviewing satellite imagery related to alleged events had been one of his primary tasks at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.

are you aware—do you have direct knowledge, or have you talked to people with direct knowledge, that there are satellite imagery of these events? Mr. GRUSCH. That was one of my primary tasks at NGA

Graves said the Gimbal recording showed a rotating object while pilots referred to a fleet that he recalled seeing in radar data during the debrief.

The recording on the AT FLIR system shows a single object that rotates. You hear the pilots refer to a fleet of objects that is not visible on the FLIR system

Grusch repeated his previously public allegation that biologics accompanied some recoveries and attributed the nonhuman assessment to people he said had direct program knowledge.

biologics came with some of these recoveries. Yes. Ms. MACE. Were they, I guess, human or nonhuman biologics? Mr. GRUSCH. Nonhuman, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program

Grusch told the committee that he could provide a list of cooperative and hostile witnesses connected with the alleged programs after the hearing.

I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. Ms. MACE. And how soon can we get that list? Mr. GRUSCH. I am happy to provide that to you after the hearing.

Grusch answered yes when asked whether he had personal knowledge of someone possibly injured while working on alleged legacy UAP reverse-engineering activity, but declined to give specifics publicly.

Do you have any personal knowledge of someone who has possibly been injured working on legacy UAP reverse engineering? Mr. GRUSCH. Yes.

Graves said the cube-in-sphere objects had no wings, infrared energy signature, or visible tether to the ground.

No wings. No IR energy coming off of the vehicle. Nothing tethering it to the ground, and that was primarily what we were experiencing out there.