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NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972

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NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972

The released record says apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon. File: NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972. NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 combines an official, playable audio, 11 extracted claims, 1 evidence record, and 1 timeline entry, and file-level provenance that can be compared with related release records.

File
Audio · Release 02
Date
Dec 7, 1972
Location
Cislunar Space
Agency
NASA

Probed Assessment

The released record says apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon. File: NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972.

Key takeaways

  • The released record says the Apollo 17 crew describe bright 'particles' or 'fragments' as being 'jagged,' 'angular,' and drifting near the Apollo spacecraft and the separated Saturn S-IVB stage.
  • The released record says the Apollo 17 crew speculate that paint chips or ice chips are likely the source of these lights.
  • NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 3:16.448

Why it matters

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 combines an official, playable audio, 11 extracted claims, 1 evidence record, and 1 timeline entry, and file-level provenance that can be compared with related release records.

Corroboration

For NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972, the release establishes official provenance but does not independently verify the record's statement that apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon.

Open questions

  • Do the full recording and surrounding mission records add context beyond the 63 available transcript segments?

Probed separates this editorial assessment from the source claims below. It summarizes what the released artifact supports; it is not independent verification.

Official Description from War.gov

During the eleventh and final crewed mission in the Apollo program, Apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon. The crew describe bright “particles” or “fragments” as being “jagged,” “angular,” and drifting near the Apollo spacecraft and the separated Saturn S-IVB stage. The Apollo 17 crew speculate that paint chips or ice chips are likely the source of these lights and note that they “twinkle” and move away from the Saturn S-IVB stage.

Preserved verbatim as source metadata. This wording is separate from Probed’s file-specific description and assessment.

File Context

Related entities

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Research Map relationships require row-level claim or timeline references.

Tracker findings

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Apollo 17 transcript mentions ice chunks and paint as possible explanations

The Apollo 17 audio transcript records a possible explanation for bright drifting fragments involving RCS logic, ice chunks, or paint coming off the spacecraft.

Apollo 17 crew described jagged fragments tumbling outside the spacecraft

The Apollo 17 transcript describes jagged, angular fragments tumbling slowly outside the spacecraft during transit.

Apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt

The record states: Apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon.

Release provenance

Release
Release 02
Official ID
release-02-file-058-nasa-uap-d009-apollo-17-audio-excerpt-december-7-1972
Cleared
May 22, 2026
Official release source

Sighting Context

Stored occurrence and enrichment data for this released artifact. Missing or regional data stays explicit rather than being inferred.

Shape model

Shape not classified

No grounded form data

Observation profile

Recorded occurrence details

Occurrence
Cislunar Space · Dec 7, 1972
Location
Cislunar Space
Classification
Not classified

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Referenced Timeline

  1. Apollo 17 Lights Incident

    Apollo 17 crew reports seeing small lights outside the spacecraft during transit to the moon.

    LinkedApollo 17

Source Claims

Claims are attributed to the released source and remain distinct from Probed’s assessment and tracker findings.

Reported by source10Source inference1
Source reportedAsserted

Apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon.

Apollo 17 Commander Gene Cernan, Lunar Module Pilot Harrison Schmitt, and Command Module Pilot Ronald Evans report seeing small lights outside the Apollo spacecraft during transit to the moon.

Source reportedAsserted

The Apollo 17 crew describe bright 'particles' or 'fragments' as being 'jagged,' 'angular,' and drifting near the Apollo spacecraft and the separated Saturn S-IVB stage.

The crew describe bright 'particles' or 'fragments' as being 'jagged,' 'angular,' and drifting near the Apollo spacecraft and the separated Saturn S-IVB stage.

InferenceAsserted

The Apollo 17 crew speculate that paint chips or ice chips are likely the source of these lights.

The Apollo 17 crew speculate that paint chips or ice chips are likely the source of these lights.

LinkedApollo 17
Source reportedObserved0:29.426-0:31.5920:29.426–0:31.592

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 0:29.426.

[0:27.370] shape . They're very , uh , jagged , [0:29.426] angular , uh , fragments , and they're [0:31.592] tumbling . Does it look like fluid of

Source reportedObserved0:03.700-0:06.9690:03.700–0:06.969

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 0:03.700.

[0:00.029] If you Very bright . Particles or [0:03.700] fragments or something that Drifting by [0:06.969] as I do understand .

Source reportedObserved3:16.448-3:18.6153:16.448–3:18.615

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 3:16.448.

[3:14.226] is essentially static except for a very [3:16.448] slight tumbling within the fragments . [3:19.610] Roger , copy that . Every once in a

Source reportedObserved3:12.059-3:14.2263:12.059–3:14.226

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 3:12.059.

[3:09.729] At 2 o'clock , OK , and the with the [3:12.059] maneuver complete , the fragment field [3:14.226] is essentially static except for a very

Source reportedObserved2:48.720-2:51.1792:48.720–2:51.179

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes an official-explanation reference at 2:48.720.

[2:44.779] S4B . I guess . RCS logic [2:48.720] is ice chunks possibly and maybe [2:51.179] there's paint coming off of it . Right ,

Source reportedObserved0:00.029-0:03.7000:00.029–0:03.700

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 0:00.029.

[0:00.029] If you Very bright . Particles or [0:03.700] fragments or something that Drifting by

Source reportedObserved2:13.466-2:16.4292:13.466–2:16.429

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 2:13.466.

[2:11.410] Bob , for the most part , uh , these [2:13.466] fragments are tumbling [2:16.429] are not - or are tumbling at a very slow rate . I've tried a couple of

Source reportedObserved2:28.971-2:31.0272:28.971–2:31.027

NASA-UAP-D009, Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt, December 7, 1972 transcript includes a particle or fragment reference at 2:28.971.

[2:26.860] Roger , I got you . We're all ears on [2:28.971] these fragments if you think you can [2:31.027] figure out what they might be . You

Source Material & Evidence

audio

Apollo 17 Audio Excerpt

NASA-UAP-D009

Transcript

00:00

If you Very bright . Particles or

00:03

fragments or something that Drifting by

00:06

as I do understand .

00:14

Yeah , there's a whole bunch of big

00:16

ones on my window that are just bright .

00:19

Looks like the 4th of July out Ron's

00:21

window . Yeah ,

00:25

and now you can see some of them in

00:27

shape . They're very , uh , jagged ,

00:29

angular , uh , fragments , and they're

00:31

tumbling . Does it look like fluid of

00:33

some sort ? Not to me . They look like

00:36

pieces of something , uh . We're here .

00:41

They're very bright , Jack . We'd like

00:43

Omni Charlie .

02:11

Bob , for the most part , uh , these

02:13

fragments are tumbling

02:16

are not - or are tumbling at a very slow rate . I've tried a couple of

02:20

pictures of them , uh , in different

02:22

settings , uh , you may get an idea of

02:24

what at least the patterns look like .

02:26

Roger , I got you . We're all ears on

02:28

these fragments if you think you can

02:31

figure out what they might be . You

02:33

know , I , I don't know . There are a

02:35

number of possibilities , uh , if you

02:37

had some kind of a , I got the

02:38

impression maybe they were curved a little bit. As if they

02:41

might be . Off the side of the

02:44

S4B . I guess . RCS logic

02:48

is ice chunks possibly and maybe

02:51

there's paint coming off of it . Right ,

02:53

I noticed on one trip up the elevator

02:55

last week , uh , one of the flags , I

02:59

pealing . Maybe that's what you got .

02:59

be on the S4 , looked like it was

03:03

And the S4B maneuver is complete .

03:09

At 2 o'clock , OK , and the with the

03:12

maneuver complete , the fragment field

03:14

is essentially static except for a very

03:16

slight tumbling within the fragments .

03:19

Roger , copy that . Every once in a

03:21

while , a fragment of considerably

03:24

higher velocity than the others goes

03:26

across my window , but that's very rare .

03:29

roger

03:40

Hey , that's that , uh , you have the

03:42

view I saw on I went back , you see it

03:44

now ? Yeah .

03:49

But There , there's no apparent

03:53

relative motion between fragments .

03:57

I do understand . I'll take 2

04:01

pictures about . It apart if I can .

04:05

And it'll be frame 70 .

04:11

OK , frame 70 . And Bob , uh ,

04:15

you know , my impression is that they

04:18

Ah , flat flake-like particles , some ,

04:21

uh , maybe , uh , 6 inches across . And

04:24

uh , although there's . No relative

04:27

motion between the two . Most of them

04:29

seem to be uh . Twinkling And I think

04:33

for the most part they're all moving

04:35

away from us .

Research Map

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