Probed ingest of: The New Space Race, AI Threats, and National Survival | Bigelow Podcast Ep. 8

Colm Kelleher says AAWSAP commissioned Defense Intelligence Reference Documents as a future-technology baseline for comparison with reported UFO performance.

Kelleher says the team began with reported UFO performance and commissioned technical experts to imagine what conventional aerospace capabilities might look like around 2050.

Kelleher recalls sending DIA both paper and electronic copies of an AAWSAP collection he estimates at 8,000 to 10,000 pages.

Kelleher recalls sending both paper and electronic copies of a final collection to DIA, estimating a stack of binders five to six feet high and roughly 8,000 to 10,000 pages.

Robert Bigelow says he brought seven papers to his February 2026 meeting with President Donald Trump and believes that was too much material for the allotted time.

Bigelow says he brought seven papers to an approximately hour-long audience, leaving about eleven minutes per topic. He believes that was too much material to communicate well and says the president asked questions unrelated to parts of his presentation.

Bigelow proposes that the U.S. Space Force establish its own astronaut corps and destinations in low Earth orbit, lunar orbit, and on the Moon.

He envisages training facilities, low Earth orbit platforms, lunar orbit assets, and multiple facilities on the Moon.

Bigelow argues that NASA’s decentralized management and civilian mission make it poorly suited to lead the fast lunar program he wants.

He describes NASA as a civilian agency divided among ten centers, with political pressures, competing budget interests, personnel constraints, and a budget he considers too small for the task.